1000 web dates an in-the-trenches view of dating and relationships today

28Jun/081

Updates on My Dates

Lots to share in a short time frame. Let's see how much I can cover!

The Farmer decided that he had to tell me he was going on a non-date with a woman he'd made out with before last Saturday night. The non-date (his words) were to occur at a pool with her in her bikini, which he assured me was a very good thing. Before I could ask why this was important information for him to share, he was gone. The next day, he tells me he was too sick from some sort of food poisoning to "do her again" in the morning, aka morning sex. He still was adamant it wasn't a date. Suddenly, he seemed to realize how inappropriate his rantings were, and mentioned he was doing a pretty good job of putting his foot in his mouth. I haven't bothered talking to him since.

A series of strange events with Better than Sex Guy has had me calling him at his request, and him not picking up or returning my calls, although when I ran into him on the street the other day (completely unawares it was him at first - he looks quite a bit older than his pics in person), he made me promise to call him again. So, I did, one last time, to invite him to the farmer's market. He ignored me, I went anyway, and lo and behold who do I run into as I'm leaving? Him, his son, and a very attractive young redhead, who waved and said hello to me while I tried to get Better than Sex Guy's attention. Somehow he never saw me, so I chatted briefly with the woman at his side. When I got home, I had an email from him stating his son's mom was in town, so this weekend was bad for him - but what's going on on Canada Day? Yeah, no.

Behinder and I have chatted a bit since the big fallout the other day, but nothing has been resolved. We even ran into each other on the street the next day; for some reason I'd chosen to get all dolled up before leaving the house, so as soon as he spotted me, he plastered a shit-eating grin all over his face. Still, I have to wonder about a man who extolls my virtues and amazingness, knows I've wanted him by my side for almost two years, yet pulls a little emo side story as an excuse why he can't date me anymore, and finds the fastest, quickest gal to casually start dating. *sigh*

So that's the sad state of my dating life right now: no dates with which to speak of. Just weird coincidences and behavior from a bunch of motley fools.

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26Jun/080

The Plot Thickens

Behinder finally admitted to me yesterday that he's been dating the woman I've dubbed the STD Nurse: the nurse-in-training he unceremoniously left me for, who in turn gave him a (luckily) innocuous STD.

I started the conversation with eight points I wanted to make:

  • I feel ashamed and foolish because of how you chose to interact with me.
  • You took the easy way out with this entire situation, the whole time (and continue to), and I am very angry with you for that.
  • I find this cycle of "sweet" yet manipulative/deceitful women to be abhorrent, and I am furious with you for continuing to make excuses for these women's behaviors.
  • You completely disregarded me as a supposed good friend.
  • We've been having intimate conversations/interactions, which, although not technically cheating are COMPLETELY inappropriate between two people where one is dating someone else.
  • Because of the last point, I'm now the kind of woman I never wanted to be - again - because of your poor judgment. I may not seem to be the most moral of women, but I do have a strict moral code that I refuse to break. I may not like STD Nurse's actions or behavior, but I would have NEVER encouraged or initiated anything had I known.
  • I feel you've placed higher value (based on your actions) for a relative stranger rather than one of your supposed closest friends, and being that you've said several times you'd never be friends with STD Nurse if you weren't having sex with her, this devalues our interactions.
  • Your excuse that "she was always around" when you were visiting your friends as an excuse to continue dating STD Nurse is ridiculous, and sounds like something more appropriate coming from a 14-year-old.

So he counters with, "you keep going back to it, yet you still never answer my question, which is , If you hadn't forgiven me for it, why still talk to me?" and I answered, yelling, "Because you told me to wait." (He did. Specifically, he'd assured me things would get better in a couple of months, and that I was worth the wait. A couple of hours later, he was bopping the STD Nurse).

And then I explain my definition of love, which is essentially to see the nasty in someone, and STILL care about them. I said that I realized I did, realized my errors, knew damn well that I was fucked up at the time, and was being patient, working on my own stuff. He counters with, "that is love to me too," to which I reply, "aha, so that's why you're running to poor STD Nurse's maligned side." He said nothing.

He then said that STD Nurse knew he flirts with me, and thinks its harmless. I explained that what we'd been doing was well beyond flirting, and he bloody well knows it. He agreed.

Then he tells me he obviously can't change my mind, to which I am puzzled. I ask, "I didn't realize changing my mind was the goal. What does that mean?" Him: "Well, you are pretty effectively negating everything I say. Which still doesn't account for the fact that I think differently than you do, and so events played out the way I thought they could best be done. I never claimed they were the right and true way, but the best I could do, with my inexperience dealing with emotional issues."

And THEN we get to the good stuff.

Him: And I don't want to hurt anyone. Which is why I thought it was over, that I hurt you too much to go back. it was something I couldn't bear. It was welcome to again interact with you, but I would never let myself go any farther.

Me: well duh, you are with someone else

Him: talking about right after the shit, but yes it carries to the present. I guess I am thanking you for allowing me back in your life, at least a little.

Me: But I still don't understand. What couldn't you bear?

Him: being with you with the fuck up I've been

Me: what, and I had no say in the matter?

Him: Over how I feel? No. But I didn't know you would be embarrassed, but I did detect some hostility there, so I let it lie. It didn't change our interactions.

Me: Had I known, it would have. I would have NEVER shared what I had.

Him: but I would have still, obviously

Me: would have, obviously.. but dammit, that's really not fair. Its not like you share that with your other friends. Its a level of intimacy usually shared between partners, and yet you're too guilty to go there, so you're essentially getting the best of both worlds. Its not fair to the person you are with, and its not fair to me.

Him: ...

Me: but its all moot, I guess. you obviously love this woman, and I'm obviously shit out of luck. so....

Him: and once again I must leave you to sleep, on that excellent note.

Me: That was excellent?

Him: that was sarcasm

*****
I'm so confused its not funny anymore.

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19Jun/080

So… He Didn’t Stand Me Up

Better Than Sex Guy just couldn't find me. After an hour of driving around, he gave up.

Silly me, I should have remembered he was new to town.

So, pre-date#1 is postponed.. until Sunday afternoon or Monday.

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19Jun/081

What If He’s Only Had Friends with Benefits?

So the Farmer lives about 1.5hrs South of me (I think), but he doesn't see that as a stumbling block to dating. I thought to myself, if he doesn't think its that big a deal, why should I? So we chat. Still. Often. Usually twice a day.

I was curious as to what he wanted to get out of our MSN-based interactions, because most men I've talked to online seem to want to meet right away. Which has always been fine by me, because I'm not a fan of chatting forever, falling in love online and THEN meeting face to face. Nah, too many expectations. I'd rather get the whole picture as soon as possible, and I'd much rather have my relationships exist in flesh and bloody goodness.

The Farmer, on the other hand, would much rather chat and get to know each other at length before meeting. His reasoning? (You already know, c'mon now... its always a dating disaster story). A psycho first date with a woman who basically started stalking him afterwards. She didn't even post a picture of herself online, but rather someone else. (Her sister? Roommate? I can't remember).

Curious, I ask more about the Farmer's dating experiences. He seems to have a fairly dark view of meeting women online (understandably), and rarely find people he even finds remotely interesting. Lucky me, I passed the first few tests.

And then he drops The Whopper For Which I Was Not Prepared: he isn't fond of dating. In fact, his last two "relationships" were friends with benefits situations that lasted a "long long time".

I fumbled around for words after his admission, and ended up signing off earlier than normal to think a bit.

I hate friends with benefits. Truly hate it. Boots to those who can make it work without hurt feelings, but I have yet to see or experience a 'successful' FWB first-hand. And if it isn't already obvious, I'm sore on the subject because I've been made a friend with benefits a few times without being told.

Here's what bugs me: FWB is basically a cop-out to avoid actual intimacy with another human being. Something is being filled (literally!) but the actual joy of intercourse is being thrown out the window completely. Its the same reason why I don't enjoy sex doggy-style; I cannot connect with my partner. What irks me even more are the men who have FWB relationships exclusively. They are essentially emotionally unavailable (as opposed to emotionally distant), and that's definitely NOT what I am looking for.

So do I keep on talking to this guy, knowing he's already told me what I need to know?

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19Jun/080

Pre-Date #1: Stood Up. I Think.

I sent Better Than Sex Guy an email yesterday: "Sorry I haven't called... its been crazy the past few days. I think I saw you at the water park today though! Want to hit the park tomorrow afternoon? (Thursday?)" He responded almost immediately, "wow !!! u should have come and said hello to me!!!! if i had of seen u i would have been over to say hello. as for the busy thing..i so understand. its raining out there...that sucks..im totally up for meeting!!!!! give me a shout!!!"

I in turn reply:

Its all good, I was just walking by. You seemed in the middle of a conversation and I didn't want to interrupt. IF that was even you. So, rain is pooey, so maybe coffee/tea instead? #removed address & details# I'm going to try to be there around 1:30-ish."

He confirmed with more exclamation marks, and we were off. Or so I thought.

I was running a bit late so I called him and left a message at 1:15 saying I'd be delayed 5-10 minutes. I have no idea if I even got the right phone number or not, but since his message sounded like a kidlet trying to take over the phone, I assumed I dialed correctly.

I arrive at 1:40pm and he's obviously not there. Its a small, central coffee shop, and I know the staff quite well, so I ask them if they've seen someone fitting Better Than Sex Guy's description. Nope.

I waited until 1:50pm and finally gave up, taking my tea to go. I just got home now after sauntering about (what can I say? I like rainy days) and sent him a quick email apology. Who knows what'll happen next, if anything, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

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18Jun/080

Pre-Dates at the Park

Nope, I still haven't had my pseudo-date with Better than Sex Guy. I got caught up with work and family shiznits, and completely forgot to call. I'd planned on calling him today after a long walk downtown, but as I was walking by the water park (a couple of minutes from my place) I spotted him and his son. On a date. With what seemed to be a childless woman - or at least one that didn't seem to mind that her back was to the playground.

I looked away, trying to give him a bit of privacy, but I'm pretty sure he spotted me. aie. How awkward.

And, in a way, creepy. Am I going to have to avoid walking by all parks in my city (of which there are many!) just so as not to seem like a stalker? bleh.

I'll call him later anyway, but at least now I know his lines are being practiced on more than just me.

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17Jun/080

Pre-Date #1

Oh my goodness, I may just be going on a date tomorrow. #1 of the year, and the first in... gosh. Eight months? Ew.

My last date was with the Behinder, and its negligible if we are still dating/dating again. Is sex the only way to tell you're dating someone? If so, then ok, we're not dating.

Anyway...

Better than Sex Guy has settled into his new place, and says he's starting to make a life of his own. 40 years old, retired military, with a 2-year-old son. Yup, he's living the life! (and seems very grateful for his good fortune) His last five-word email asked me when we'd be meeting up at the park so the kidlets could play. Oddly (strangely? fatefully?) he lives around the corner from my place. So it looks like tomorrow we may just be finally meeting up, after a month or two of long distance chat. Is it a date? Not sure, but I'll say it is just to stroke my ego a bit.

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17Jun/080

Time To Start Dating Again

I think I've been in hiding long enough. So far no dates, but I am chatting with a couple of gents.

  • Better Than Sex Guy: He's finally moved to town and his Internet connection is hooked up. Still, his emails are brief - his last one three words long, extolling the virtues of having a park across the street from his house.
  • Favorite Date Guy, aka the Behinder: Ok, so I doubt we'll date again, but dammit, I want to. Add to his confusing as hell chat the other night, and I've confirmed my torch-holding days aren't over yet. *sigh*
  • The Farmer: This guy is a New Kid on the Block; I've just started chatting with him. I think he may be more of a fisherman than a farmer, but all he's shared so far is that he just finished a BSc, and he's currently working on his parents farm. He lives (by his estimation) about 1.5hrs North of me, so I doubt I'll be meeting him anytime soon. He's got me a bit worried, too, since he's said several times he's very picky about the women he dates. I have a feeling I've already been picked out of his dating patch. Still, he instigates conversation several times a day, and seems intelligent, sexy, witty and a bit dark. Just how I like 'em.
  • Homesteader: Also a newbie, this gent just messaged me today. He lives remotely, homesteading and raising cattle, and rarely gets Internet access. His photos and personality are exceptionally intriguing to me - but he lives more than four hours away. His profile also says he's got kids who live with their Mom but "that shouldn't matter because I'm not looking for my soulmate or anything". Uh, yeah. At least he's honest, but based on that comment alone I doubt we'll connect. I'll still keep the communications open, for now.

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16Jun/080

And You Say Women Are Confusing?

A chat with the Behinder yesterday left me more confused than ever. In a nutshell: we met and dated briefly before we were forced to part ways geographically for a year. It was later admitted we were 'falling for each other'. Yet when we reconnected, he felt something was missing. We're still friends and talk often.

Him: i'm trying to keep from getting too involved. does that sound reasonable?
Me: ew. That sounds horrible, but yes, I get it.
Him: i would be extremely uncomfortable if you jumped me, for instance, but I am unsure as to what my reaction would be.
Him: whether my instincts would take over
Him: so I try to keep some sort of distance between us. its not much. but enough.

Anyone speak guy-ese? Care to decipher?

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22May/080

Meeting Someone from a Dating Site

Remember Better Than Sex Guy? Well, our several weeks-long chatting frenzy has come to an end. He currently lives elsewhere, but has retired early and is moving here at the end of the month. So no 'net for him until the 2nd.

He seems like a genuinely nice guy to me. Having said that, I've got red warning bells flashing in my head. Ok, maybe more like yellow ones, and not because I'm meeting him from a dating site. More just.. well.. I can't quite put my finger on it.

Maybe its because he doesn't email more than two sentences at a time. Ever. Or perhaps its that in each of his photos, he looks like a completely different person. I am tempted to ask which photo he looks the most like TODAY, but I haven't wanted to waste his two sentence response. Yet.

And then there's his kid. Which wouldn't be an issue - if the kid were his. Strange, I know. He says he met the child's mother when she was 2 months pregnant, and when they split up almost two years later, she didn't want the little guy. So he took custody.

Admirable, for sure. And I definitely gave him kudos for such a selfless act. But why can't I shake the feeling that there is more to this story? I mean, isn't there always some sort of baby mama drama in these kinds of situations?

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